Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

02/11/2008 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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*+ HB 351 CONCEALED HANDGUN PERMIT: FINGERPRINTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 351(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 303 MARINE & MOTORIZED RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 250 YOUTH INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL CONDUCT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
HB 351 - CONCEALED HANDGUN PERMIT: FINGERPRINTS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:17:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL   NO.  351,  "An   Act  relating  to   submission  of                                                               
fingerprints by  applicants for a  concealed handgun  permit; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:17:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  LIDSTER,  Staff  to Representative  John  Coghill,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  sponsor, relayed on behalf  of Representative                                                               
Coghill that  HB 351 would  alter Alaska's statute  pertaining to                                                               
obtaining a  permit to carry  a concealed handgun such  that only                                                               
one fingerprint card would be  required rather than two.  Changes                                                               
in technology have allowed the  Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                               
to only need  one set of fingerprints, and  this statutory change                                                               
will reflect what is currently actually happening.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL,  speaking as  the sponsor,  remarked that                                                               
duplication  is  the  bane  of governments,  and  HB  351  merely                                                               
provides that since  only one set of fingerprints  is needed [for                                                               
processing an  application for a concealed  handgun permit], only                                                               
one set shall be required.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS noted  that  similar  [unnecessary] duplication  of                                                               
fingerprint cards occurs with regard to certain licensees.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL concurred,  but  pointed  out that  while                                                               
some  of  that  fingerprint  duplication  can  be  addressed  via                                                               
regulations,  the fingerprint  duplication for  concealed handgun                                                               
permits has to be addressed via statute.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM offered her  hope that someday the state                                                               
will have only  one fingerprint database that can  be accessed by                                                               
all   agencies   that   need    to,   thereby   eliminating   the                                                               
aforementioned duplication.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  explained that  the DPS has  suggested an                                                               
amendment  that  would  allow  the  department  flexibility  with                                                               
regard  to  which  format  it  would  allow  fingerprints  to  be                                                               
submitted on.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:21:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NORMAN  D. MEANS,  M.D., after  relaying  that is  the holder  of                                                               
concealed handgun permit,  said that although he  is in agreement                                                               
with the bill,  his concern is that holders  of concealed handgun                                                               
permits  are losing  their National  Instant Criminal  Background                                                               
Check System (NICS) exemption because,  since 6/1/06, the Federal                                                               
Bureau of Investigation (FBI)  quit conducting fingerprint checks                                                               
for the DPS.   He suggested, therefore, that the  bill be amended                                                               
to  require the  DPS to  the perform  fingerprint checks  so that                                                               
permit holders can once again get a NICS exemption.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:23:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHRYN  MONFREDA,  Chief,  Criminal Records  and  Identification                                                               
Bureau,  Division of  Statewide  Services,  Department of  Public                                                               
Safety (DPS),  in response  to a  question regarding  Dr. Means's                                                               
comment on  the NICS,  clarified that the  FBI actually  is still                                                               
conducting  fingerprint checks  for  the DPS,  but  is no  longer                                                               
conducting a search of "the  other files" that it maintains under                                                               
the Brady  Handgun Violence Prevention  Act ("Brady Bill").   The                                                               
DPS itself, she  remarked, doesn't have the resources  to do that                                                               
work, and she isn't sure why the FBI is no longer doing so.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA, in response to  further questions, explained that a                                                               
permit holder will have to have a  NICS check done at the time of                                                               
any gun  sale/purchases, and although  there might be a  delay of                                                               
up to  three days, over 95  percent of such checks  are performed                                                               
immediately.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:24:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MAX GRUENBERG,  Alaska State  Legislature, noting                                                               
that  existing  AS  18.65.700(a)(8)   stipulates  that  a  person                                                               
applying  for a  permit can't  suffer a  physical infirmity  that                                                               
prevents the  safe handling of  a handgun, asked whether  the DPS                                                               
has  a standard  that defines  "physical infirmity  that prevents                                                               
the  safe  handling  of  a   handgun",  and  how  that  would  be                                                               
determined.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA said  she  is  not sure  of  the  answer but  would                                                               
research the issue further, and  indicated that she would provide                                                               
that information to the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS, after  ascertaining  that no  one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 351.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:26:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  made  a  motion to  adopt  Amendment  1,                                                               
labeled 25-LS1411\C.1, Luckhaupt, 2/11/08, which read:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 1 - 2:                                                                                                       
          Delete "on a Federal Bureau of Investigation                                                                      
     approved fingerprint card [CARDS]"                                                                                     
      Insert "in the format approved by the department [ON                                                                  
      FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION APPROVED FINGERPRINT                                                                      
     CARDS]"                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS asked  whether there  were any  objections.   There                                                               
being none, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL expressed reluctance  to address "the NICS                                                               
issue"  via HB  351,  but added  that he  is  sympathetic to  the                                                               
concern raised.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:27:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved to report  HB 351, as amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying zero  fiscal note.   There being no  objection, CSHB
351(JUD)  was   reported  from   the  House   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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